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Comments on: The Linguistic Lockdown http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/ a vlog by Raymond M. Kristiansen Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:49:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.1 By: raymond http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9198 raymond Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:34:44 +0000 http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9198 Bicyclemark: The old media that is deemed irrelevant online doesnt even have to be 100 years old, or 20 years old. It could be something like that podcast from 7 months ago, or the twitter discussion from last week. I agree that history lessons need to be re-affirmed somewhat in the educational system. I don't know what the real status of history teaching is around the world. Do you have any reports about it somewhere? I dont really see the ideological schism between profits and investigative journalism. I agree that in many cases, it does constitute a problem, but that with the right owners, it can surely function in a good way. Online, what can we do to be better at seeing different media from different media sources (and dates of publishing) within the same zooming level / scope? Bicyclemark: The old media that is deemed irrelevant online doesnt even have to be 100 years old, or 20 years old. It could be something like that podcast from 7 months ago, or the twitter discussion from last week. I agree that history lessons need to be re-affirmed somewhat in the educational system. I don’t know what the real status of history teaching is around the world. Do you have any reports about it somewhere?

I dont really see the ideological schism between profits and investigative journalism. I agree that in many cases, it does constitute a problem, but that with the right owners, it can surely function in a good way.

Online, what can we do to be better at seeing different media from different media sources (and dates of publishing) within the same zooming level / scope?

]]> By: bicyclemark http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9195 bicyclemark Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:15:13 +0000 http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9195 Profits and investigative journalism have no business being tied to each other. Requiring such a relationship ultimately sabotages the investigative journalism part if it doesn't fit the profit demands of a media source. Media should never have been labelled a business like any other business. It is a very special and essential institution, online and offline, small or large. I think the problem already exists in online culture. Knowledge and valuation of history is in a constant decline.. people seem to know (or want to know) less and less about history.. which gets transferred to the online sphere... where whats old is old... and isn't given value. How to change culture and make history important again? I think the best place is in primary schools. We need good history teachers who not only know alot, but can inspire and help students understand why history is ALWAYS important. Profits and investigative journalism have no business being tied to each other. Requiring such a relationship ultimately sabotages the investigative journalism part if it doesn’t fit the profit demands of a media source. Media should never have been labelled a business like any other business. It is a very special and essential institution, online and offline, small or large.

I think the problem already exists in online culture. Knowledge and valuation of history is in a constant decline.. people seem to know (or want to know) less and less about history.. which gets transferred to the online sphere… where whats old is old… and isn’t given value.

How to change culture and make history important again? I think the best place is in primary schools. We need good history teachers who not only know alot, but can inspire and help students understand why history is ALWAYS important.

]]> By: raymond http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9194 raymond Tue, 11 Mar 2008 12:12:59 +0000 http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9194 Hey Rick, thanks for the comment. I agree that newspapers will continue to have an important role, as does books. Yes, books. The things that are written, then corrected, edited, proof-read, sent to a printer, and published maybe 6 months after the author stopped writing it. But I wish for more interaction between the newspapers/books and the more interactive, online elements. It would be good if a book like <a href="http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine" rel="nofollow">The Shock Doctrine</a> had more collaborative elements in it. Not just a list of <a href="http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine/get-involved" rel="nofollow">links</a> to places where you could get involved, but also where we collectively could work out more intelligence on the issues at hand. Hey Rick, thanks for the comment. I agree that newspapers will continue to have an important role, as does books. Yes, books. The things that are written, then corrected, edited, proof-read, sent to a printer, and published maybe 6 months after the author stopped writing it.

But I wish for more interaction between the newspapers/books and the more interactive, online elements. It would be good if a book like The Shock Doctrine had more collaborative elements in it. Not just a list of links to places where you could get involved, but also where we collectively could work out more intelligence on the issues at hand.

]]> By: Rick Wolff http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9193 Rick Wolff Tue, 11 Mar 2008 11:43:40 +0000 http://dltq.org/2008/03/11/the-linguistic-lockdown/#comment-9193 Here's one: "newspaper". We are merciless to newspapers that refuse to change, or at least supplement, their dead-tree pipeline, as we should be. However, the top-tier local and regional papers have gotten the message, not just on the Internet but even social media. They got it later than they could have, but not as late as people think. Here's wishing them success: investigative journalism must always be profitable, one way or another. Blogs can't have all the fun! Here’s one: “newspaper”. We are merciless to newspapers that refuse to change, or at least supplement, their dead-tree pipeline, as we should be. However, the top-tier local and regional papers have gotten the message, not just on the Internet but even social media. They got it later than they could have, but not as late as people think. Here’s wishing them success: investigative journalism must always be profitable, one way or another. Blogs can’t have all the fun!

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